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Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« on: February 15, 2013, 07:21:23 PM »
Since i didn't see a Revis thread and now that Woodson is gone, thought would put this up......

I too have heard about Thompson interested in the Jets Darrell Revis.

One rumor that comes from a credible source   says the Packers and Jets have had prelim talks that involves the Packers giving up their 1st but getting back the Jets 2nd and Green Bay sending 2 players on their current starting unit with the Jets sending 2 players to Green Bay.

Also included with this trade is that Green Bay agrees to take Tim Tebow QB for A J Hawk LB

Names of players involved were not disclosed as the one who making this decree says he has no idea who might be involved.

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 07:27:45 PM »
My posts on this subject:

So..Thompson who doesn't hardly get his toes wet in free agency, might be in the bidding for Revis and willing to part with a high draft pick? The thinking is the Jets won't get a 1st and 2nd, but most likely a second round pick and maybe a player.......now which player would TT part with? Williams, Hawk, etc?

Revis with the young corps would make for the best secondary in the NFL and would mean the end of Woodson's days here at the salary Woodson is getting. Would basically be giving Woodson's money to a younger Revis.....if this happens.

CBS is saying this is very similar to when Reggie White was becoming available and there are a bunch of teams lined up....but some of them are Jet rivals and they wouldn't trade Revis to one of them.

Normally and 99% time yes, would agree on that. Packinatl makes a good point of why he wouldn't also.

However, we are in Rodgers prime years now and we all saw how the organization wasted those prime years of Favre. So this maybe has a chance. With Woodson maybe done and Williams not his old self, I'd say this is possible...though maybe not probable.....it still has a chance however slim.

I remember thinking no way we would get Reggie White or get Keith Jackson to actually come to GB, but we did. Revis is being compared to White in terms of impact and what he does. It might mean the end of both Williams and Woodson, but would be worth it imo......

Soooooooo listening to ESPN radio this morning it sounds like unless some team loses their mind that there is no way Revis will get the amount of money he will want in a new contract.

And no way Jets get first picks either. It's sounding more like a 2nd and 4th round picks or some type of a deal with a player(s) and/or pick(s).

Maybe Thompson pulls off some of that magic again? 

And before had heard about the trade rumor and Patty's info, this was my very first post on this......

Been thinking on this. Actually thought his salary cap number would be higher than it is. If you basically trade Woodson's number for Revis, it's seems like a wash.

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 07:54:27 PM »
My take: The NFL and it's salary cap make this type of thing almost impossible to pull off, especially in the Jets case. All SB money becomes accellerated from what I understand and they are already in a tough cap positon.

Hey, if we could get Revis and get rid of say, Hawk and Tramon Williams, I'm all for it. I'll take Tebow and see if MM can make him more accurate. I'm sure Rodgers wouldn't have to worry about his job security.


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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 09:16:27 PM »
My take: The NFL and it's salary cap make this type of thing almost impossible to pull off, especially in the Jets case. All SB money becomes accellerated from what I understand and they are already in a tough cap positon.

Hey, if we could get Revis and get rid of say, Hawk and Tramon Williams, I'm all for it. I'll take Tebow and see if MM can make him more accurate. I'm sure Rodgers wouldn't have to worry about his job security.

The cap hit for the Packers for TW would be $2.4 million.  $7.3  million for the Jets for salary and bonuses.
This is a cap savings of $6.1 million for GB.

The cap hit for Hawk would be $4.8 million for the Packers and $5.45 million for the Jets.
This is a cap savings of $2.25 million for GB.

Tebow has a salary of $2,568,875 with no signing bonus factored in.  $895,000 for 2014.

Revis has $9 million in salary and bonus money due for 2013 and no signing bonus issues.

The net difference in salaries would be an increase of $1,181,125 for the Jets.

The cap hit for the Packers would be:
Williams - $2,400,000
Hawk - $4,800,000
Revis - $9,000,000 (although we'd probably do an extension)
Tebow - $2,568,875
TOTAL - $18,768,875
Increase in cap for the Packers - $3,218,875


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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 08:24:38 AM »
The cap hit for the Packers for TW would be $2.4 million.  $7.3  million for the Jets for salary and bonuses.
This is a cap savings of $6.1 million for GB.

The cap hit for Hawk would be $4.8 million for the Packers and $5.45 million for the Jets.
This is a cap savings of $2.25 million for GB.

Tebow has a salary of $2,568,875 with no signing bonus factored in.  $895,000 for 2014.

Revis has $9 million in salary and bonus money due for 2013 and no signing bonus issues.

The net difference in salaries would be an increase of $1,181,125 for the Jets.

The cap hit for the Packers would be:
Williams - $2,400,000
Hawk - $4,800,000
Revis - $9,000,000 (although we'd probably do an extension)
Tebow - $2,568,875
TOTAL - $18,768,875
Increase in cap for the Packers - $3,218,875

It ain't the Packers you should be worried about in this scenario, it's the Jets and they are in cap hell. Williams and Hawk's salaries are about equal to what they get shedding in Revis and Tebow. They need to reduce their cap, not tread water.

We might do an extension with Revis, but he's not interested in being the second highest paid CB and it's going to be costly. Maybe not as expensive in 2013, but 2014 and beyone when we are trying to re-sign: Matthews, Raji, Rodgers, Shields, Burnett, Cobb, Jones, ect. It's probably doable but not easy and it will cost us a guy or two. Now, if I can get out of the Hawk and Williams contracts this year, it is a no-brainer. Can the Jets afford it? I doubt it.

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2013, 08:56:10 AM »
Jets won't want our garbage. They want picks. They would laugh at a 1st and Hawk and Williams for Revis and a second. If they get players back they would want young players with upside and likely still on their rookie contract.

Also TT is not going to pay Revis 12+ milion a year when he has so many other players to try to get signed first.

Revis to GB is a unrealistic pipe dream IMO.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 09:32:32 AM by GBP4EVER! »

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2013, 09:31:31 AM »
Someone (a reporter) asked TT about his reluctance to dip into free agency waters too much.  I believe it was at his end of the year press conference.

TT replied that players like Reggie White don't hit free agency anymore.

Reading between the lines he said that if you want an elite player at a position, you need to trade for him now.

And here is the Revis situation.

15/85 that it doesn't happen.  But still a chance.  Slighly more than Lloyd Christmas's chance....  (And in real life, Jim Carrey did marry Lauren Holly!)
So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort." And he says, "Oh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 09:54:07 AM »
Someone (a reporter) asked TT about his reluctance to dip into free agency waters too much.  I believe it was at his end of the year press conference.

TT replied that players like Reggie White don't hit free agency anymore.

Reading between the lines he said that if you want an elite player at a position, you need to trade for him now.

And here is the Revis situation.

15/85 that it doesn't happen.  But still a chance.  Slighly more than Lloyd Christmas's chance.... (And in real life, Jim Carrey did marry Lauren Holly!)

And Jenny McCarthy! Go figure!

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2013, 11:03:50 AM »
Just don't see the trade happening. I am sure they called and asked what do you want for him but beyond that  doubt it.  twocents1

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Re: Revis a Possible? Patty's take
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 03:27:56 PM »
I think there's a 0% chance this will happen...even worse than Lloyd Christmas's odds.  Not TT's M.O, and not really a position of need for this team.